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Post by swannie on Oct 19, 2013 18:32:53 GMT
What's going on locally in my neck of the woods AKA Sussex, England, is a battle between the Govt backed fracking companies such as Caudrilla, and those against fracking. Turns out that most of Sussex is ripe fracking country and much of it has been sold off, often illegally, to fracking companies. Local councils have been banned from objecting to the planning by a new law recently passed effectively gagging them, so the public are doing their best to stop the fracking going ahead. It has had lots of media attention and not all good, depending on whose pockets the paper sits in at the time of writing. Personally as where I live is right in the middle of that bit red patch on the map, I am very worried. Where I live is deemed an area of natural outstanding beauty and so therefore can't be built on or tampered with and yet the fracking companies have managed to by-pass all laws and are threatening to wreck the places that apparently bring tourism etc. My little part of the world feels threatened on a massive scale. I've added some links for those who feel like looking at 'em. frack-off.org.uk/local-group/no-fracking-in-sussex/www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/10148552/Fracking-faces-tough-foes-in-leafy-Sussex.htmlwww.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23749448
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 21:30:11 GMT
The sad thing is these businesses would never bring this kind of crap into their own neighborhoods.
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Post by manny on Oct 19, 2013 21:40:02 GMT
Tell the people to put sugar in the gas tanks of all their equipment. It will seize the engines/motors. Really slows them down. Time to use Commando tactics with these buggers.
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Post by cobtact on Oct 20, 2013 0:49:53 GMT
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Post by manny on Oct 20, 2013 13:03:47 GMT
This crap will never stop until the people band together and put a stop to it. Apathy is ripe in societies today, and the gov'ts depend on that. Gov't uses the term "mandate" to rule, but in all honesty, they are given the "privilege" to serve. Time to turn it around, and that time is now!
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Post by swannie on Oct 20, 2013 13:25:29 GMT
I agree with you Manny.
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Post by manny on Oct 20, 2013 13:35:00 GMT
Sometimes you wonder just what it will take to ignite a fire under people's azzez. It's always I'm too busy or too scared to stand up and be counted. But they continue to vote for these jerks. Find independent reps to run for office.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 14:09:57 GMT
Sometimes you wonder just what it will take to ignite a fire under people's azzez. It's always I'm too busy or too scared to stand up and be counted. But they continue to vote for these jerks. Find independent reps to run for office. Perhaps even just if folks'd...
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Post by manny on Oct 20, 2013 14:40:39 GMT
Sometimes you wonder just what it will take to ignite a fire under people's azzez. It's always I'm too busy or too scared to stand up and be counted. But they continue to vote for these jerks. Find independent reps to run for office. Perhaps even just if folks'd... do I detect a note of apathy there Grey?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2013 15:58:03 GMT
Perhaps even just if folks'd... do I detect a note of apathy there Grey? Not really, however I've also learned over the years that martyrdom is rather ineffective as well. Actual solutions is, always was, and always will be, the elusive part of the equation. My point however was along the lines of "if folks would listen a bit more closely and take better note of what they're facing..." Who knows?
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Post by tizzahell on Oct 20, 2013 22:19:35 GMT
I can totally empathize with you Swannie. I live at the end of the proposed Northern Gateway Project... which is a pipeline that runs from Alberta oilsands to my town. There are also several proposed natural gas (shipping)projects for our area. The biggest issue we have is the damned Prime Minister of our country changing laws and, sneaking crap bills in with other unrelated things... all in the name of greed!!! It isn't even as though any of this is going to help the average Canadian, he is trying to export all of our resources to China
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Post by manny on Oct 21, 2013 12:09:15 GMT
Harper isn't concerned with helping the average Canadian, he is owned by the corporations. They are his only concern. There is so much we Canadians don't know about. Stuff that goes on behind closed doors, and this crap MUST stop!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 13:43:37 GMT
^ Its the same ole song all around the world. Our grandchildren's children will be speaking Chinese.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2013 14:52:18 GMT
Harper isn't concerned with helping the average Canadian, he is owned by the corporations. They are his only concern. There is so much we Canadians don't know about. Stuff that goes on behind closed doors, and this crap MUST stop! Actually, Canada is "Sock-puppet Central" if one takes even a mediocre look at things. It's a sock-puppet as nations go, and is populated by many of the finest sock-puppets walking the planet. The stuff citizens here tolerate is..... embarrassing to say the least. A prime example that comes to mind right away was the "mad cow disease" beef fiasco some years back. Myriad scandals were automatically alleged of course, all of which aren't worth mentioning anymore. It was initially commonly claimed to have been shown to be American beef, (all long since erased and covered up after a decade's passing) from an American farmer, that began the whole scandal, yet it was Canadians who got blamed and bore the brunt. How about the northern pipelines that are alleged and/or underway (to varying degrees) continually. (those concerned about pollution from fossil fuels being the gremlin therein, need to start brewing their coffee a bit stronger as they're plainly still half asleep) It's about far bigger affairs than "where" they process and refine the fuel. It's about life and death. AKA WATER. There's still a pretty fair supply of water further north than is enjoyable habitat for most. Think maybe an ulterior motive might be in play concerning these oil pipelines? And the list is endless, Some might call me a "conspiracy theorist" with talk like this, but...... (time'll tell, just maybe not in our days)
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Post by tizzahell on Oct 21, 2013 20:33:33 GMT
It's funny you say that grey, I have had conversations with men who claim fraking is perfectly safe. "They have been doing it for over 50 years" and, then there are those pro-gas commercials about how safe it is... there are too many gullible people in this world!!
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