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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 11:35:25 GMT
The issue of making marijuana legal or decriminalized for medical use has been passed now in many of the united states. And two states have recently approved it for recreational use also. Yet, the federal government has not passed such a law, so it is still considered illegal federally. from wiki - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-of-US-state-cannabis-laws.svg  State with legal medical cannabis - lime green
State with decriminalized cannabis possession laws - olive green
State with both medical and decriminalization laws - forest green (including MA, the state I live in)
State with legalized cannabis - purple
I have a good friend in his mid 60's who was instrumental in getting it passed for medical use in this state, yet I am unclear if he devoted so much time and energy to this because there was a real medical need for himself, or simply because he likes the high. Nevertheless, I think it is a very good thing that we are lightening up on the fear that using a herbal that grows easily worldwide is a bad thing. I view it as a good sign fear is taking a back seat and many more are perhaps opening to the benefits this herb might offer.Of course anything in excess is out of balance and will have consequences. And yet, many in my generation embraced it and continue to use it recreationally and/or medically today, much like alcohol when consumed responsibly. My fear is I am seeing in young adults of today a much higher tolerance to much stronger marijuana. It is a concern and I have heard reports of more and more psychological imbalances occurring as a result. So, I am on both sides of the fence at the same time. I can see the real benefits, and I can see the risks too. What are your views? |
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Post by swannie on Apr 30, 2013 18:45:13 GMT
Hmmm I'm on the fence too.
My thoughts in no particular order:
I have a friend with MS who doesn't smoke it as she doesn't like the paranoia etc that it gives her. It's not just teens that puff negatively affects. However some people do find it helps them, so they should be able to get it without fear of the law.
It's easier to control a stoned public than it is control a drunk public. Controlling a stoned unarmed public is even easier.
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Post by Stumour on May 1, 2013 17:07:03 GMT
The trouble is the super strains being bred these days. They're the stuff causing mental issues, I reckon.
Ye don't see much paranoia in ex stoners that used cannabis in days of yore. (or do you? muhahahaaaa)
Methinks more looking into the difference between what should be classed as "medical strength" v "oot yer effin skull" stuff should be carried out.
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Post by swannie on May 2, 2013 5:58:26 GMT
Ye don't see much paranoia in ex stoners that used cannabis in days of yore. (or do you? muhahahaaaa) Looooads of mental health issues dating back to the 60s and 70s except that those who want to legalise it conveniently forget how it fucks our heads up. It was para psych city back then and it's para psych city now only now it's even more so due to the genetic warp. |
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Post by swannie on May 2, 2013 7:11:32 GMT
Onnnnnn the other hand ....
Someone I know has just stopped smoking the stuff and has turned into a rude twat and nobody likes him now ... turns out the puff was hiding what an arrogant plonker he really was. So some people definitely need the stuff to be deemed fit for public consumption.
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Post by Stumour on May 2, 2013 7:27:13 GMT
Methinks them back in the day may have dabbled in more than some Mary Jane.... LSD was pretty rife then too, mind. Right up into the 80s it was as easy to get as popping out for tea bags.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2013 11:29:41 GMT
I experienced years ago how easily sleeping little, eating little, and smoking more than my usual homeopathic amount (one puff occasionally) can effect one's mental perspective and balance. And I never got into anything else to warrant how my mind switched to an altered state.
It was not paranoia, but a definitely labelled psychotic state and it was truly fascinating to see how easily I could do it if I wished. It took just three days of doing what I said above plus I started writing my life story at the time too. So, who knows really? Was it the cannabis, or sleeping and eating little, or bringing back the memories and making those very alive in me again?
To be honest, I would have loved to have stayed in that state - everything magical and incredibly powerful and symbolic...but one can not function in this world and one's life these days when one is in a totally present state of mind and being...and the world will not let you stay there either I found.
So, like everything, one needs to always be careful and find a balance when one is doing anything that could alter one's psyche...especially if one is prone to fly in the ether at the drop of a hat.
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Post by Stumour on May 2, 2013 16:54:07 GMT
I know someone that forgot my name whilst herbally enhanced!
Of course, she'll prob tell ye about the time I slumped down a wall in retaliation ha ha!
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Post by swannie on May 2, 2013 18:26:07 GMT
Ooooh and his legs have gone!
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Post by tizzahell on May 3, 2013 21:07:04 GMT
I'd like to see legalization go a step farther; everywhere.
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Post by Stumour on May 4, 2013 2:43:18 GMT
It's still astounding to me how alcohol is still deemed as safer than cannabis.
Cash cow for governments leaps to mind... yet cannabis would, surely, be just as good a tax revenue. If a worry is that folk would grow their own, have they never heard of home brewing?
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Post by swannie on May 4, 2013 6:27:08 GMT
Alcohol is a drug too. I don't think it's deemed as safer, just that they can't make it illegal as it's been legal for so long, and definitely a big part of this society.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 6:40:38 GMT
I remember years ago in England watching a wonderful documentary about drugs and they kept going back to this graph showing various drugs and their level of safety, including alcohol, caffeine and tobacco....
And alcohol was surprisingly more dangerous and up towards the top of the graph for being bad for you than most every other drug, including heroin.
So, the truth is they know it's not safer, but more dangerous than most things. Marijuana was way down towards the bottom.
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Post by swannie on May 4, 2013 6:42:51 GMT
I can't think of MJ as way down there as it wrecked a lot of my life and removed most of my memory cells. But hey who am I to argue with stats.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2013 6:52:49 GMT
in comparison to the other drugs on the graph they were comparing. i think personal experience like yours is not often graphed in such a documentary.
i know i have learned there are substances that suit some people, and do not suit others. for example, alcohol would never be my drug of choice. it doesn't agree with me, nor do i like the 'high' of getting drunk.
nevertheless, i am sorry mj had such devastating consequences for you.
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