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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 3:21:00 GMT
Ya, fans knew he had been battling cancer for a long time, but never heard anything that indicated he was close to death...sheesh. I'll never forget when VH 1 came out...in '78....how astoundingly different it was from anything out there at the time...how when I first heard "You really got me" on Casey Kasem's Top 40 show on a Sunday morning in 1978, I *HAD* to go out to the closest mall to the record store to get that 8-track. And how pleased I was that there wasn't a lame track on the tape! Cuz remember we'd go out to buy an album based on one or two songs and took a chance on the rest of the album. How I studied the album and 8-track, thinking "Who tf are these guys?" And Eddie with that striped guitar, screaming on the cover. And how I was lucky enough to see them in 1978, with Sabbath and the Ramones. I recently stumbled onto this old clip that reminded me of the 1978 era Van Halen when I saw them. And how good they were. I loved the band up through their late 80's juggernaut period....but this, will always be my favorite VH period.
What astounded me from this clip, more than Eddie's playing, was I had forgotten what a dynamic frontman DLR was. Most Roth-haters, I think, forget that. I dont think he was nearly as good from the early 80's on. JMO.
Eddie, and VH, will always be an important part of my life.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2020 7:02:54 GMT
I don't know how anyone could possibly be a Roth hater. When you look at all the frontmen of the 80s hard rock bands, who were they trying to emulate??
The Roth era was when Eddie was his most innovative. I believe once Hagar became part of the band, Eddie was trying to be taken more seriously as a songwriter and appeal to a wider audience more than anything else. I don't want to say the Hagar era was "horrible" per se, but for me, that's when they lost their swagger and element of dangerousness. They became a band mom and dad could embrace.
We had a jukebox in my house when I was in my teens, and it already had 45s in it when we bought it. "Why Can't This Be Love?" was on it. I punched in the number for it, and when it began, I remember my mom saying "Oh, I like this! Who is it??"
I felt like kicking the jukebox.
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Post by cooldog65 on Oct 9, 2020 16:25:34 GMT
I can remember MTV when it was good.
Why are they still called MTV when they are mostly reality shows?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2020 9:24:23 GMT
Indeed. It's blatant false advertising.
Then again, even if they did play music videos, I doubt I would watch it, anyway. They would probably only play shit that's on the Billboard top 20 non-stop.
At least MTV of old was actually diverse.
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Post by grey areas on Oct 10, 2020 14:00:58 GMT
Agreed, but I was never really too big a fan of MTV. It was always a little bit too "top of the charts" for my liking. I feel like you with regards to sammy hagar taking over for david lee roth too piggy. I still enjoyed the music, but felt sammy was a downgrade, none the less. I meant to mention the other day that SiriusXM is playing a bit of a tribute to Van Halen right now. The "deep tracks" channel is temporarily the "Van Halen tribute channel". It has been for a few days now. ...Bit of cool stuff on there.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 22:00:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2020 23:48:34 GMT
I don't know how anyone could possibly be a Roth hater. When you look at all the frontmen of the 80s hard rock bands, who were they trying to emulate??
The Roth era was when Eddie was his most innovative. I believe once Hagar became part of the band, Eddie was trying to be taken more seriously as a songwriter and appeal to a wider audience more than anything else. I don't want to say the Hagar era was "horrible" per se, but for me, that's when they lost their swagger and element of dangerousness. They became a band mom and dad could embrace.
We had a jukebox in my house when I was in my teens, and it already had 45s in it when we bought it. "Why Can't This Be Love?" was on it. I punched in the number for it, and when it began, I remember my mom saying "Oh, I like this! Who is it??"
I felt like kicking the jukebox.
Hahaha - nice mask. Reminds me of the band, Ghost. Well, ya know the standard Roth bashers....."Can't sing at all,"..."Forgets lyrics,"..."Stupid antics,"...etc. etc. ...sure you're familiar with the litany of bashing surrounding DLR. But the thing is, most of that is true...but the bashers don't acknowledge his electrifying presence on stage, particularly early on. And his pushing the band to be more interesting onstage, i.e., showing some life and enthusiasm. Every successful organization has to have an annoying sales-type up front...and for VH...that was DLR. I agree with your analysis of the Hagar era.....I didn't care for most of it...with a few exceptions. But I loyally bought their music til around the late 80s....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 2:34:13 GMT
I don't know how anyone could possibly be a Roth hater. When you look at all the frontmen of the 80s hard rock bands, who were they trying to emulate??
The Roth era was when Eddie was his most innovative. I believe once Hagar became part of the band, Eddie was trying to be taken more seriously as a songwriter and appeal to a wider audience more than anything else. I don't want to say the Hagar era was "horrible" per se, but for me, that's when they lost their swagger and element of dangerousness. They became a band mom and dad could embrace.
We had a jukebox in my house when I was in my teens, and it already had 45s in it when we bought it. "Why Can't This Be Love?" was on it. I punched in the number for it, and when it began, I remember my mom saying "Oh, I like this! Who is it??"
I felt like kicking the jukebox.
Hahaha - nice mask. Reminds me of the band, Ghost. It's an official licensed ghoul mask from the band. It's made out of resin and it's heavy as hell.
As for Roth, I listened to his 3 hour interview with Joe Rogan a while back, and wow, he is really articulate and still fascinating to listen to, even if he sounds like he could be on something or from another planet, but it reveals precisely why he succeeded in the entertainment business, that's for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 2:45:01 GMT
Wow. What a shithead David Crosby is. I'm not knocking him for having an opinion, but to be a public figure and express this dismissive sentiment on a large scale right after someone's death is rather tactless.
He could have said "he was a good guitarist and it's a shame he died" rather than "meh".
I hate to burst his nostalgic bubble, but Eddie did change the world of rock guitar just as much as Hendrix did. It's not a matter of opinion. He introduced techniques that no one had ever implemented before and millions began to emulate. Eddie was also instrumental in the technological side of guitar. He played a role in the invention of a lot of gear that is commonplace today. It sounds like Crosby is holding it against Eddie for not breaking through in the 60s. www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/david-crosby-receives-**cklash-for-insensitive-eddie-van-halen-tweets-2781959?amp
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 14:00:47 GMT
Wow. What a shithead David Crosby is. I'm not knocking him for having an opinion, but to be a public figure and express this dismissive sentiment on a large scale right after someone's death is rather tactless.
He could have said "he was a good guitarist and it's a shame he died" rather than "meh".
I hate to burst his nostalgic bubble, but Eddie did change the world of rock guitar just as much as Hendrix did. It's not a matter of opinion. He introduced techniques that no one had ever implemented before and millions began to emulate. Eddie was also instrumental in the technological side of guitar. He played a role in the invention of a lot of gear that is commonplace today. It sounds like Crosby is holding it against Eddie for not breaking through in the 60s. www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/david-crosby-receives-**cklash-for-insensitive-eddie-van-halen-tweets-2781959?ampThats rich for someone who sounded like shyte at the last concert I heard him at with CSN about 7 years ago.Took him almost 30 minutes to sound tolerable enough to enjoy the concert.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 14:09:00 GMT
Wow. What a shithead David Crosby is. I'm not knocking him for having an opinion, but to be a public figure and express this dismissive sentiment on a large scale right after someone's death is rather tactless.
He could have said "he was a good guitarist and it's a shame he died" rather than "meh".
I hate to burst his nostalgic bubble, but Eddie did change the world of rock guitar just as much as Hendrix did. It's not a matter of opinion. He introduced techniques that no one had ever implemented before and millions began to emulate. Eddie was also instrumental in the technological side of guitar. He played a role in the invention of a lot of gear that is commonplace today. It sounds like Crosby is holding it against Eddie for not breaking through in the 60s. www.nme.com/en_asia/news/music/david-crosby-receives-**cklash-for-insensitive-eddie-van-halen-tweets-2781959?ampThats rich for someone who sounded like shyte at the last concert I heard him at with CSN about 7 years ago.Took him almost 30 minutes to sound tolerable enough to enjoy the concert. He's a stuck-in-the 60s hater. I have no idea why he (or anyone else for that matter) believes there can only be one innovator.
This was very deliberate. His initial "meh" comment and the half-ass "apology" where he subtly bashed him even more.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 14:11:06 GMT
I would have killed to have been there. I remember Motley Crue was on the bill, too, and I had just started listening to them.
Their performance was absolutely horrible, mostly because of Vince Squeal.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2020 20:09:51 GMT
Though I wasn't ever a huge fan of the Hagar era, this is an incredible cover. They dialed in the 5150 production values perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 15:44:32 GMT
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