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Post by swannie on Oct 21, 2013 21:57:38 GMT
Harper isn't concerned with helping the average Canadian, he is owned by the corporations. They are his only concern. There is so much we Canadians don't know about. Stuff that goes on behind closed doors, and this crap MUST stop! This is happening in the UK too.
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Post by swannie on Oct 21, 2013 22:20:56 GMT
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Post by manny on Oct 22, 2013 11:50:23 GMT
Yes, I have heard of him, and yes, his language is a bit coarse, but he tells it like it is. Sounds a bit like Jessie Ventura, the Governor.
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Post by swannie on Nov 5, 2013 15:40:30 GMT
Balcombe is lost. Cuadrilla have managed to sign a 30 year lease for fracking. As we say round 'ere faaaackinell. Or maybe that should be frackinell.
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Post by cobtact on Nov 5, 2013 21:10:22 GMT
gad..i forgot to write them and other peeps I know I tell them to frack OFF!!!!!!!!!!! it feels good I think
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Post by swannie on Nov 23, 2013 19:28:47 GMT
Cunts. It's the only word for them. www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/10465022/We-are-open-to-fracking-says-leading-environmental-group.htmlDavid Montagu-Smith is currently Chairman, CPRE West Northamptonshire District. He is also Chairman of the Board of Directors, Rathlin Energy Ltd and Rathlin Energy (UK) Ltd. Rathlin Energy (UK) is exploring for oil & gas in Yorkshire while Rathlin Energy Ltd is exploring for oil & gas in Northern Ireland in an area which includes the Giant's Causeway. Montagu-Smith does not rule out fracking to get the oil/gas in NI.
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Post by Stumour on Nov 28, 2013 20:08:08 GMT
When you think about the mineral history of the UK, is fracking any worse than mining?
There is still major subsiding of land up here due to mining and a major issue is that the mines were never mapped. At least, with fracking, there isn't the issue of Victorians in stove pipe hats not bothering to tell ya WHERE they're operating!
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Post by swannie on Nov 28, 2013 21:40:58 GMT
Mining wasn't right either Stu. And I would be against mining in my hometown too.
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Post by Stumour on Nov 28, 2013 21:55:16 GMT
Mining wasn't right either Stu. And I would be against mining in my hometown too. NIMBY So... how do you power your house? By pedal power, fossil fuels or magic? You may be against mining, but you strongly support it every time you switch on a lamp, use gas or, god forbid, get into a train, bus or car. Oil extraction is a form of mining, is it not?
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Post by swannie on Nov 28, 2013 22:08:28 GMT
I know what you're saying Stu, but fracking isn't safe. Is oil extraction safe? No but I wouldn't want that near here either, and if they open up to the other options available (petrol free cars for example) then we wouldn't need to have this conversation. My point is, that Sussex is a built up area and shouldn't be used as a fracking site. We use petrol and electricity because that's what is available, some of us use as little as possible, and one could argue that burning wood in my stove isn't good either, although it is all recycled from a carpenter and other builders, currently burning mahogany skirting boards from the tip. Fracking is not healthy for those living near it, so do we kill a few to help the masses? If so, you can live here while I choose to move my family somewhere safe, but I don't want it in your backyard either Stu, I don't think it's safe for anyone.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 3:05:25 GMT
Heard on the news today my state of Massachusetts has put a moratorium on fracking for the next 10 years! Yeah! It's just one state, but it's a start!!
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Post by swannie on Dec 1, 2013 8:51:31 GMT
That's good news Willow. What's their official reasoning? Edit: Google is my friend. rt.com/usa/fracking-texas-activists-concerned-510/Edit again: “I think the oil and gas industry has done all they can do to prevent the renewables from getting a foothold here in the state of Texas,” Tillman told RT. “You know for me to put a solar panel on my house I have to go through a significant permitting process. However, if I want to drill a gas well in my back yard it could probably get done in the afternoon.”
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 10:20:15 GMT
Actually, oil and/or gas wells are quite often not much further than a stones throw away from personal residences here in Alberta. (not that I feel that's too wise either, but obviously money talks)
The fracking sounds like it isn't too far removed from some of the injection extraction they're using north of here in the tarsands. Not knowing all the finer details I can't really elaborate too much, but I can say that that part of the planet is an abomination.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2013 15:04:31 GMT
That's good news Willow. What's their official reasoning?.... Glad you asked, Swan. It helped me clarify what the radio news didn't elaborate on....they passed a bill...still a couple of steps to go before it becomes law.... But here's the reasoning... (cool... it posted as a link, even with no 'link' function button)rt.com/usa/fracking-texas-activists-concerned-510/Headline: Massachusetts seeks 10-yr ban on gas fracking after series of Texas quakes "An environmental committee at Massachusetts Statehouse has approved a bill, imposing a 10-year ban on fracking for natural gas. The move comes as a wave of earthquakes in Texas has raised new concerns over the controversial drilling technique.
The Massachusetts fracking moratorium bill is designed to protect the state’s drinking water from possible contamination and thus "ensure that the health and prosperity of our communities is maintained," according to one of the legislation's sponsors, Northampton Democratic state Rep. Peter Kocot, cited by AP.
To become law, the temporary ban on fracking has yet to be approved by the lawmakers and signed by the Democratic Governor, Deval Patrick.
The Massachusetts legislative move was taken on Friday, the day after Texas was stuck by a 3.6 magnitude earthquake, one in a row of similar episodes during the last three weeks. The finger of blame is being pointed at fracking. The series of small earthquakes caused no casualties, but left local Texas residents fearing worse could be in store.
Fracking is a drilling technique that involves injecting chemical-laden water deep into the ground, exploding it and then pumping it back, together with the gas released as a result of the blast. The water is then separated from the gas and is disposed of by being injected back into the ground....." It goes on to talk more about Texas. I imagine here it will go through to become law. I'll keep you posted on the progress, fingers crossed. Adding: reading that last paragraph...can anyone in their right mind think this is actually good for the planet or environment???? any step of it???!!!
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Post by swannie on Dec 1, 2013 16:33:07 GMT
This is what I think too. While I appreciate that Stu thinks it's NIMBY of me, actually it's more that the more I read of it the more incredulous I get to why anyone would think it's a good idea, regardless of the whereabouts. Grey the tarsands extraction technique is indeed very similar regardless of what fracking supporters say. Interesting. rt.com/op-edge/anti-fracking-activist-texas-461/
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